I'm seeking some clarification on what a plane needs to be ifr certified. Is it two vors or two ifr certified navigation devices.
Currently I have a garmin 400w full ifr certified with a king indicator for the gps and waas approaches. Then I have a Val ins 429 self contained vor and ILS. In addition I have a narco mk12d with a a Id824 vor attached. Also there is a narco 810 installed.
The narco radios are giving feedback on my garmin 340 audio panel and I would like to swap them out for new radios. I was thinking of two Val 2000 coms, but this would mean I only have one vor which is land based since the vor on gps 400 is gps not ground based.
I was told I need to have 2 ground based vors to be fully ifr complaint. This seems silly to me that the garmin 400w is not counted. I understand the need for redundancy and all, but I could navigate the plane with either the Val 429 alone or the garmin alone if one were to malfunction in route.
If I do have to have two ground based vors then could I buy a garmin 420 non waas which has a radio and use this without an indicator and just use the digital cdi. Does this count a ground based indicator.
The reason I ask all of this is if I go two non nav radios then I need to pick up another Val ins 429 for $2000. The 429 is a nice indicator but the second would only serve as the backup to the backup.
I have read the regs and they seem to conflict this two ground based vors as I was told.
Currently I have a garmin 400w full ifr certified with a king indicator for the gps and waas approaches. Then I have a Val ins 429 self contained vor and ILS. In addition I have a narco mk12d with a a Id824 vor attached. Also there is a narco 810 installed.
The narco radios are giving feedback on my garmin 340 audio panel and I would like to swap them out for new radios. I was thinking of two Val 2000 coms, but this would mean I only have one vor which is land based since the vor on gps 400 is gps not ground based.
I was told I need to have 2 ground based vors to be fully ifr complaint. This seems silly to me that the garmin 400w is not counted. I understand the need for redundancy and all, but I could navigate the plane with either the Val 429 alone or the garmin alone if one were to malfunction in route.
If I do have to have two ground based vors then could I buy a garmin 420 non waas which has a radio and use this without an indicator and just use the digital cdi. Does this count a ground based indicator.
The reason I ask all of this is if I go two non nav radios then I need to pick up another Val ins 429 for $2000. The 429 is a nice indicator but the second would only serve as the backup to the backup.
I have read the regs and they seem to conflict this two ground based vors as I was told.
